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Where is the Focus?

July 27, 2010

Recently there have been a number of “bigger” names in the charismatic christian community that have been tarnished. Sadly their names have been tarnished by their own sin. I often sit there and wonder, sometimes rant, about how every other month there is another charismatic leader falling in the public eye. I sometimes the words might even come out of my mouth “that’s why it’s better to be reformed!” but my wife is quick to remind me that, being reformed or charismatic is not the issue…

The issue is: Where is the focus of those who are falling?

We are all born into sin. The Bible is very clear on that. I am a sinner, you are a sinner. Sinners think simply about themselves. When humanity sins, it is because we are focused on ourselves. When big time Christian pastors fall, it’s because they are focused on themselves. It’s obvious that when people sin, their focus is on anything other than Christ.

So let me pose a question, when we struggle with habitual sin (things we do over and over) are we focusing on God or something else? I am going to say that if you have habitual sin in your life it is because you are more concerned about you, and how you feel, rather than God and how He feels.

What do you think? Where is the focus? Is it where it should be?

5 Comments leave one →
  1. Mike Steinsdoerfer permalink
    July 27, 2010 8:36 am

    Going along with the focus, I feel that a lot of Christian people fall in general because they aren’t focused on the person of Christ. Christians can be more focused on an idea of morality or a political standpoint or a need to be a part of something, and that something just so happens to be Christianity. I feel that some Christians simply lives their lives the way that they do not necessarily (and firstly) because they love Jesus or want intimacy with him, but rather because they think they “should” act a certain way in order to check something off the list of being “Christian”. In doing this they lose their “focus” and are distracted from the person who is supposed to be the object of their faith: Jesus. They become more concerned with themselves and what they are “doing”. I think the thing people need to get back to is a love and intimacy with Christ. When that becomes first (and quiet frankly, everything) the world will see less and less “Christians” falling morally.

    What defines being a Christian anymore anyway?

  2. Timothy E Phillips Jr permalink
    July 27, 2010 5:35 pm

    Ben if you could check out Justin Peters Ministries A call for Discernment , a biblical critique of the word of faith movement. this poison is almost everywhere in every congregation because of cowardly preachers who in the name of having a large congregation sacrifice telling the people the truth about these false prophets and false teachers. I believe that john said it best in the book he wrote as a test to people claiming to be a true believer so we could examine if we were truly in the faith 1 John 2:17-19
    17 The world is passing away, and also its lusts; but the one who does the will of God lives forever.
    18 Children, it is the last hour; and just as you heard that antichrist is coming, even now many antichrists have appeared; from this we know that it is the last hour.
    19 They went out from us, but they were not really of us; for if they had been of us, they would have remained with us; but they went out, so that it would be shown that they all are not of us.
    habitual sin is not a sighn that we have lost focus it is a sighn that we never had it in the first place. a slave of his love Timothy

  3. July 27, 2010 7:39 pm

    Verse 19 that Timothy referenced is such an amazing, yet scary, verse. When people are “going out from” (cf. 1 John 2:19) orthodox Christianity it can be a sign that they aren’t of “us.” I like what both Timothy and Mike are hinting at here. It is no place of ours to make a final judgment of whether or not these men are Christians, but these events seem to go contrary to Jude 1:24, “Now to him who is able to KEEP YOU FROM STUMBLING and to present you blameless before the presence of his glory with great joy.” These event seem to be red flags that suggest that these men are not saved. It all depends on how they bounce back from these situations. David did a lot of horrible things. God could have gave him over to his sin and never interacted with him again, but God loved David and sent Nathan to him to reveal his sin. David’s reaction proved his relationship with the Father. He repented and changed. These Christian leaders will prove or disprove their faith by the way they react to God’s rod of reproof:
    My son, do not despise the LORD’s discipline
    or be weary of his reproof,
    for the LORD reproves him whom he loves,
    as a father the son in whom he delights.
    (Proverbs 3:11-12 ESV)

    God only disciplines those whom he loves. If these leaders get the discipline and they truly repent, praise God. If not, then I agree with Timothy and 1 John 2:19. We will have to see.

  4. July 27, 2010 7:53 pm

    “Charismatic leader falling” well I believe for one thing we all have a certain blame for that. Just like you tweeted the other day “We make too much of people sometimes. People will fall and continue to do so. Focus on Christ.” I know for a fact that I have placed Pastors, Elders and other people on pedestals. And I am always angry and hurt when they fall. But every time they do fall I am reminded that I lost the focus in the first place. We are always putting people on pedestals; well everyone but Christ and we put Him on the cross.
    Habitual sin, wow that one hits home. I have dealt with a recent porn addiction and what you have to say is right on. I was more focused on myself then Christ. I think that the number one sin is the lack of love we have for God, everything else is a reaction sin from that. I cared more about my own feelings, my own desire then His. As I write that I feel like crap but I know that I am a sinner and He knows that and still loves me. No matter if they are a “charismatic” leader or a local blogger we all sin and fall short of Gods will and that is why we have Christ. We put Him on that cross. He died for all the Benny Hinns out there. Wow think I am rambling, sorry.

  5. Benjamin Davis permalink*
    July 27, 2010 7:56 pm

    I think you all have good things to say even before I could get a word out. Respect all those thoughts for sure.

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