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Mass Conversion

January 19, 2010

Do mass conversions work?

As in: A bunch of people raise their hands in a large gathering and repeat a prayer? Or pitching a product on TV to a large audience? If it does work do these people stick to what they were sold on?

Curious to what you guys think.

9 Comments leave one →
  1. January 20, 2010 4:59 am

    Sometimes yes – sometimes no. I think Peter would have an argument to say yes…

    • Benjamin Davis permalink*
      January 20, 2010 10:15 am

      I hear you Rich. Peter would have a little something to say about that.

  2. Brett barner permalink
    January 21, 2010 4:08 am

    Well Rich pretty much said what I was going to. My first response would have been “no” because I started to assume information. But then I thought back to Peter, jonathan Edwards, the great awakening, etc.

    It’s funny how easy it is to believe biblical & historical miracles over modern day ones of the same tone. So basically my answer: sometimes. 🙂

  3. Benjamin Davis permalink*
    January 21, 2010 4:15 am

    Brett I hear you, and am right with you.

    I think both. There were people who helped with those mass conversions, as in stayed around and did the “dirty” work to make it stick.

    Does that make sense?

  4. Brett barner permalink
    January 21, 2010 4:24 am

    Ben-totally get it. I often see churches struggle doing the “dirty work” when there’s only 1-2 conversions. Sometimes we get a little too obsessed with conversion numbers and $$$$ that we forget about the less instant gratifying work of discipleship.

  5. Tim permalink
    January 21, 2010 6:12 am

    Hmm. It is obvious that God HAS used this method in the past. There were specific ingredients present. Some of which being repentance, belief, an actual putting away of sin, etc. During the great revivals of the past bars were going out of business because of people repenting of their drinking!

    Would God still do something like that today? I can’t presume. I don’t think we’ll see it with some of today’s churches looking to be more “world-friendly” accepting people the way they are (don’t get me wrong, we need to love the sinner but share with them about the WAGES of their sin and God’s plan or redemption instead of OVERLOOKING it).

    For there to be a mass conversion, there would have to be a mass repentance like there was in days gone by. Right now, personally, there isn’t a whole lot of it going around. Like I said, I can’t presume what God’s plans are though. (2 Chromicles 7:14)

  6. Tim permalink
    January 21, 2010 6:17 am

    I like the comments about the so called “dirty work”! I think a church has only done PART of the job if souls are reached for salvation but NOT discipleship!

    Also, dirty work could be defined as the week in week out working and visiting and teaching and preaching that goes on “behind the scenes” all the time!

  7. Kyle Bartholic permalink
    January 21, 2010 5:12 pm

    Do mass conversions work? That question is a bit ambiguous. If we were to ask, are mass conversions effective for increasing the sheep fold? The answer would undoubtedly be yes. As “sheep fold” refers to those who have come to have a saving faith in Jesus.

    However, if we ask, are mass conversions effective in creating disciples? I think we can all agree with a no. Since discipleship suggests the moving of a soul to a continual deeper level.

    Yet the church in Acts responds to this interesting problem. The sheep fold is being increased exponentially (similar to mass conversion) and they need to create disciples out of those people. How does the gang respond? By choosing and establishing leaders who can help the new additions to the sheep fold work through this new faith they find themselves in.

    And that may be another topic in and of itself…

  8. Benjamin Davis permalink*
    January 21, 2010 7:41 pm

    Tim, Kyle you both had great thoughts for sure.

    Does anyone have any thoughts when it comes to products?

    Can someone say Sham Wow?

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